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Nawaz Offers Views on Changing Pakistani Perceptions of U.S.
Shuja Nawaz, Director of the Atlantic Council's South Asia Center, was interviewed on The Takeaway morning radio news program on the Pakistan flood situation. The discussion focused on the U.S. being the single largest donor of aid, and the potential for Pakistanis to shift their perceptions of America. However, Nawaz warns of the long-term effects of America's goodwill, stating that "changing image takes a long time."
South Asia Center's Shikha Bhatnagar Spotlighted
Shikha Bhatnagar's recent appointment as Associate Director of the South Asia Center of the Atlantic Council, is yet another manifestation of a growing trend of second generation Indian Americans' advent into leading Washington, DC think tanks as senior policy analysts and associates.
Chuck Hagel Discusses START Ratification on RussiaToday
Atlantic Council Chairman Chuck Hagel was interviewed for RussiaToday on delays in ratification of the START treaty in both the U.S. and Russia.
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Afghanistan is Irrelevant
Bernard Finel | April 27, 2009It is now a deeply entrenched conventional wisdom that the decision to “abandon” Afghanistan after the Cold War was a tragic mistake. In the oft-told story, our “abandonment” led to civil war, state collapse, the rise of the Taliban, and inevitably terrorist attacks on American soil. This narrative is now reinforced by dire warnings about the risks to Pakistan from instability in Afghanistan. Taken all together, critics of the Afghan commitment now find themselves facing a nearly unshakable consensus in continuing and deepen our involvement in Afghanistan.
The problem with the consensus is that virtually every part of it is wrong. Abandonment did not cause the collapse of the state. Failed states are not always a threat to U.S. national security. And Pakistan’s problems have little to do with the situation across the border.
First, the collapse of the Afghan state after the Soviet withdrawal had little to do with Western abandonment. Afghanistan has always been beset by powerful centrifugal forces. The country is poor, the terrain rough, the population divided into several ethnic groups. Because of this, the country has rarely been unified even nominally and has never really had a strong central government. The dominant historical political system in Afghan is warlordism. This is not a consequence of Western involvement or lack thereof. It is a function of geography, economics, and demography.
Second, there is no straight-line between state failure and threats to the United States. Indeed, the problem with Afghanistan was not that it failed but rather that it “unfailed” and becameruled by the Taliban. Congo/Zaire is a failed state. Somalia is a failed state. There are many parts of the globe that are essentially ungoverned. Clearly criminality, human rights abuses, and other global ills flourish in these spaces. But the notion that any and all ungoverned space represents a core national security threat to the United States is simply unsustainable.
Third, the problem was the Taliban regime was not that it existed. It was that it was allowed to fester without any significant response or intervention. We largely sought to ignore the regime — refusing to recognize it despite its control of 90% of Afghan territory. Aside from occasional tut-tutting about human rights violations and destruction of cultural sites, the only real interaction the United States sought with the regime was in trying to control drugs. Counter-drug initiatives are not a sound foundation for a productive relationship for reasons too numerous to enumerate here. Had we recognized the Taliban and sought to engage the regime, it is possible that we could have managed to communicate red lines to them over a period of years. Their failure to turn over bin Laden immediately after 9/11 does not necessarily imply an absolute inability to drive a wedge between the Taliban and al Qaeda over time.
Fourth, we are now told that defeating the Taliban in Afghanistan is imperative in order to help stabilize Pakistan. But, most observers seem to think that Pakistan is in worse shape now — with the Taliban out of power and American forces in Afghanistan — than it was when the Taliban was dominant in Afghanistan. For five years from 1996 to 2001, the Taliban ruled Afghanistan and the Islamist threat to Pakistan then was unquestionably lower. This is not surprising actually. Insurgencies are at their most dangerous — in terms of threat of contagion — when they are fighting for power. The number of insurgencies that actually manage to sponsor insurgencies elsewhere after taking power is surprising low. The domino theory is as dubious in the case of Islamist movements as it was in the case of Communist expansion.
There is a notion that “everything changed on 9/11.” We are backing away as a nation from that concept in the case of torture. Perhaps we should also come to realize that our pre-9/11 assessment of the strategic value and importance of Afghanistan was closer to the mark that our current obsession with it. We clearly made some mistakes in dealing with the Taliban regime. But addressing those mistakes through better intelligence, use of special forces raids, and, yes, diplomacy is likely a better solution than trying to build and sustain a reliable, pro-Western government in Kabul with control over the entire country.
Dr. Bernard I. Finel, an Atlantic Council contributing editor, is a senior fellow at the American Security Project. This essay was originally published at ASP's FlashPoint blog. US Army photo used under Creative Commons license.



























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Bernard, in this article you've nearly expressed my opinion on the subject. It's hard for Afghanistan but the sad reality is that we have no strategic interest in the country. I think there's an argument to be made that we have a strategic interest in preventing Al Qaeda from setting up shop there again. I believe we can do that without a build-up of troops and without an expesnive nation-building project.
Bernard, your article about Afghanistan and how irelevant it is to US has no marits. It looks likey you have a very short memory. It was US with the help of ISI that empowered Taliban. Afgh population never had extermist religious groups such as Taliban. Extremism and suicide bombing was an import from Arabs. It was a mess that US created by neglecting Mujahideen after defeating Soviet Union. It is US's moral obligation to help and rebuild Afgh. You are trying to deny this fact and want to take easy way out. This precise attitiute toward third world countries that got US in a deep problem with the world. The notion that Afgh never had a strong central government and all these warlordism is the result of the geographic, economics and demography is completely wrong and misleading. You need to read about Afgh before 1980 (70's, 60's) and learn how the central gov't was functioning and how there were peace and security in the country and no warlordism at all. You can simply be direct and state that you are not interested in Afgh anymore as US defeated Soviets and got what it wanted and that US does not like to clean after its mess, but do not insult people's inteligence by making statements that are very misleading and without any merit.
The most important strategy for addressing the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan is avoiding any policy of total abandonment or open-ended involvement. Despite all the concerns of increasing influence of extremism in the region, the desire and support for democracy is strong among the people. The international community needs to comprehend two realities for succeeding in the region:
1. Too much involvement in dictating the kind of democracy that the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan should adopt has backfired and should be avoided.
2. The international community needs to play the role of a facilitator for ensuring that a contextual form of democracy, the one best suited to socio-cultural conditions of the region, takes root.
For this it is essential that the international community remains involved but also recognizes its limitations; socio-political renaissance in the region is not the ultimate objective.
To cite a simple example, the international community has been demanding that Pakistan act aganist the recent Taliban expansion. all negative decisions of the Pakistani government were repeated on every news channel several times. But a popular protest march scheduled for April 28 at Lahore's General Post Office has not been reported at all. Such indigenious attempts at ensuring offical accountability are the best means for solving the regions problems and the international community should support these efforts.
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Good point! don't involves them to the things that they don't want to..
Pakistan is avoiding any policy of total abandonment or open-ended involvement. Despite all the concerns of increasing influence of extremism in the region, the desire and support for democracy is strong among the people.
" It's hard for Afghanistan but the sad reality is that we have no strategic interest in the country."
Talk about short memories. If I remember correctly, the Taliban were in Washington DC before 9/11 negotiating for a pipeline through their country. That potential has not gone away. As one great American said, “follow the money”.
Parag Khanna, The Second World, “Most observers consider Afghanistan NATO’s furthest protectorate, but in fact the country is already—and once again—part of the new Great Game with the SCO.”
Personally, I fully agree with the author if this post.And as a mother of two sons, I feel a great pity for the families who lost their sons in the wars in Afganistan.
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But addressing those mistakes through better intelligence, use of special forces raids, and, yes, diplomacy is likely a better solution than trying to build and sustain a reliable, pro-Western government in Kabul with control over the entire country.
"pro-Western government in Kabul with control over the entire country" sends chills down my spine.... I feel ya.
I wish there were so many more that felt this way.
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